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If $A$ is turing recognizable and $A \leq_m\bar{A}$ then $A$ is recursive? If it is true how to prove it?

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It is my attempt, If $A$ is turing recognizable (r.e.) and $\bar{A}$ is r.e. then $A$ is recursive. but by $A \leq_m\bar{A}$ I can't deduce that $\bar{A}$ is r.e.

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    $\begingroup$ What did you try? Where did you get stuck? $\endgroup$ Mar 1, 2015 at 20:06
  • $\begingroup$ @DavidRicherby From what I know if $A$ is r.e. (turing recognizable) and $B \leq_m A$ then B is r.e. If $A$ and $\bar{A}$ are r.e. then $A$ is recursive. the problem is I can't deduce that $\bar{A}$ is r.e. $\endgroup$
    – M a m a D
    Mar 1, 2015 at 20:16
  • $\begingroup$ @DavidRicherby I posted my prove as the answer, would you please take a look at it to see if it is right? $\endgroup$
    – M a m a D
    Mar 2, 2015 at 8:44
  • $\begingroup$ @Drupalist We don't do homework grading, sorry. You should be able to convince yourself that your proof is correct (that's an advantage of mathematics). If you think there's a gap, that makes for a more specific question than "am I correct". $\endgroup$
    – Raphael
    Mar 2, 2015 at 11:50

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Hint: If $A$ reduces to $\overline{A}$ then $\overline{A}$ reduces to $A$ (using the same reduction).

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  • $\begingroup$ Your answer means there is no R.E. set say $A$ such that $\bar{A}$ is not R.E and $A \leq_m\bar{A}$ , is it really right?! $\endgroup$
    – M a m a D
    Mar 1, 2015 at 21:52
  • $\begingroup$ I meant what I wrote. You draw the conclusions. $\endgroup$ Mar 1, 2015 at 21:54
  • $\begingroup$ If $A$ is R.E and $\bar{A}$ is not then $\bar{A} \leq_m A$ is a contradiction, because this reduction says $\bar{A}$ must be R.E! If your answer is true then there must be two disjoint cases: whether $\bar{A}$ must be R.E or $A$ is not mapping reducible to $\bar{A}$ $\endgroup$
    – M a m a D
    Mar 1, 2015 at 22:00
  • $\begingroup$ I posted my prove as the answer, would you please take a look at it to see if it is right? $\endgroup$
    – M a m a D
    Mar 2, 2015 at 8:28
  • $\begingroup$ That's the job of your TA, not mine. $\endgroup$ Mar 2, 2015 at 15:29
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Finally I proved it this way, first we need a few definitions:

$co-W = \{A | \overline{A} \in W\}$

set $W$ is called m-closed if for $A \in W$, and for any $B \leq_mA$ then $B \in W$

We already knew (Davis book page 209)

If $W$ is m-closed or 1-closed then so is $co-W$

Because the set of all $r.e.$ sets is m-closed so is $co-r.e.$,

$A \in r.e. \rightarrow \overline{A}\in co-r.e.$ //by definition

$A \leq_m \overline{A}$ because $\overline{A} \in co-r.e.$ and $co-r.e.$ set is m-closed so $A \in co-r.e.$

$A \in co-r.e.$ it implies $\overline{A} \in r.e.$

$A \in r.e. \land \overline{A}\in r.e. \rightarrow A \in recursive$

and the proof is completed


It implies any set $\psi$ that is m-closed or 1-closed, if $A\in\psi$ and $A \leq_m \overline{A}$ or $A\in\psi$ and $A \leq_1 \overline{A}$, then $\overline{A}\in\psi$

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