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i don't understand the following:

If there's an algorithm that can decide ACYCLIC in Polynomial time, then there's an algorithm who returns a set of k edges, so that the graph obtained by deleting the k edges is without cycles - in polynomial time.

The algorithm should get a directed graph and a natural k as an input, and output, if there are k edges as needed, a list of k edges, so that the graph obtained from erasing those k edges is cycles. if there are no such k edges, it simply outputs "no".

Question:my question in addition to the answer already given is this part: " then there's an algorithm who returns a set of k edges, so that the graph obtained by deleting the k edges is without cycles - in polynomial time." - what can be this algorithm? how to do it using a turing machine?

Problematic part: I can only use an algorithm that decides ACYCLIC, but it is forbidden to use any other NP-Complete algorithms, and it's running time must be polynomial in regards to its input size.

My attempt: well, to check/decide if a directed graph is ACYCLIC or not, we'll visit it topologically using DFS, then using a stack, we'll traverse edges to see if any edge in the digraph leads back to an edge already visited. if already visited - there's a cycle, if not - there's no cycle.

The algorithm: on an input of a directed graph, to check ACYCLIC:

1)finding an vertex that has only outgoing nodes - if such node doesn't exist - return "graph has cycles"

2)on that node, run DFS and traverse the digraph; add each edge found to a stack. if a vertex is shown twice - return "graph has cycles".

3)if no cycles found, accept.

But, I am not sure how to do it in regards to the algorithm required in the problem(first two paragraphs of the questions - basically, returning a set of k edges, so that by removing them, the graph will be cycles.

would really appreciate knowing how to do it.

thank you very much

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  • $\begingroup$ Please edit the question to provide a definition of the language ACYCLIC. Also, what is your question? I don't see any question in your post. What's a circle? Do you mean cycle? Please edit accordingly. $\endgroup$
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    Commented Feb 11, 2020 at 20:46
  • $\begingroup$ thank you very much for your comment. edited the question. in addition to the great answer already given i was wondering - what can be the algorithm to obtain the following: "The algorithm should get a directed graph and a natural k as an input, and output, if there are k edges as needed, a list of k edges, so that the graph obtained from erasing those k edges is cycles. if there are no such k edges, it simply outputs "no"."? $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 12, 2020 at 21:04

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Disclaimer This solution assumes that the language $\text{Acyclic}$ is the language that contains exactly all acyclic directed graphs.

It is impossible to achieve this in polynomial time unless $\operatorname{P}=\operatorname{NP}$. The reason is that the problem you have to solve is NP-hard. It is called the directed feedback arc set problem. It is one of Karp's 21 hard problems. On the other hand, finding whether a graph is acyclic can be done with any graph traversal method in polynomial (actually linear) time. Hence, $\operatorname{P}^{\text{Acyclic}} = \operatorname P$. Hence, if you solved the task you are given in polynomial time you would have proven $\operatorname{P} = \operatorname{NP}$.

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  • $\begingroup$ thank you for your answer, it helped me a lot. my main problem is defining the following algorithm:"The algorithm should get a directed graph and a natural k as an input, and output, if there are k edges as needed, a list of k edges, so that the graph obtained from erasing those k edges is cycles. if there are no such k edges, it simply outputs "no". " - i don't know how to do it, could you help me with it please? $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 12, 2020 at 21:06
  • $\begingroup$ could you please have a look at it: cs.stackexchange.com/questions/120634/… ? $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 12, 2020 at 22:00
  • $\begingroup$ Well if exponential running-time is okay for you, you can try removing all sets of $k$ edges and checking if the resulting graph has cycles in it. The running time in this case will be something like $O(n^k \cdot \operatorname{poly}(n))$ $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 12, 2020 at 22:38
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    $\begingroup$ There are better algorithms but non of them is polynomial unless P=NP for example see this engineering.tamu.edu/cse/_files/_documents/_content-documents/… $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 12, 2020 at 22:38
  • $\begingroup$ I am having a problem understanding your answer, if you can, could you elaborate why if we know that it is possible to decide whether a language belongs to ACYCLIC in polynomial time, there exists the algorithm that can return a set of k edges so that the graph after removing them contains no cycles? it would really helped me a lot if you could elaborate as much as you can $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 12, 2020 at 22:56

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