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I got a problem to solve, which is to demostrate that the language $L$, given by:

$L = \{ab^nc^n\mid n \geq 0\} \cup \{a^kw \mid k\geq 2 \wedge w \in \Sigma^*\}$

  1. Satisfies the pumping lemma.
  2. Is not regular.

For the question 1. I think it would suffice to demonstrate that for all $w \in L$, $w$ can be decomposed in the form $\alpha \beta \gamma$, where $|\beta| \neq 0$, and that every string $\alpha \beta^m \gamma \in L$, where $m \geq 0$, but after that I have no clear what I have to do, because I start thinking about cases, what if I have a string $w \in \{ab^nc^n\mid n \geq 0\}$... I should decompose it the way $\alpha = \epsilon, \beta = a$ and $\gamma = \text{the rest of the string}$ (because if we use $w = ab^0c^0 = a$, $\beta$ will have to be $a$, because we know that $\beta \neq \epsilon$), but in this case $\alpha \beta^m$ may not be in $L$, for example, if we choose $m = 0, \alpha \beta^m \gamma$ won't be in $L$, so I don't know what I'm doing wrong... perhaps I'm making mistakes in several steps.

Now, for the question 2. I don't even have an idea on how to start, if someone would help me I would really appreciate it

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  • $\begingroup$ Perhaps you would care to define $L$ properly. What does $2$ mean in its definition? If it is supposed to mean that $k \geq 2$, then I think that the pumping lemma does work. $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 16, 2015 at 7:26
  • $\begingroup$ possible duplicate of How to prove that a language is not regular? $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 16, 2015 at 7:59
  • $\begingroup$ @YuvalFilmus I edited the question as the definition of $L$ did not make sense. I did not use the definition of the existing answer (which I had not read). But I do not think it makes a difference. Hope you agree. $\endgroup$
    – babou
    Commented Apr 16, 2015 at 10:42
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    $\begingroup$ Closely related: Languages that satisfy the pumping lemma but aren't regular? $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 16, 2015 at 15:11
  • $\begingroup$ I just want to point out a mistake in the edited version of the question (as opposed to the correct answer by Yuval). The right side of the union cannot be $\{a^kw\mid k\geq 2\wedge w\in\Sigma^*\}$ as the resulting $L$ will then not contain words that do not start with an $a$. However, if you pump $ab^nc^n$, the only choice to pump is the $a$, which means that also $b^nc^n$ must be in $L$. Hence, the way this is set up won't work -- with Yuval's version it does work, of course. $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 22, 2021 at 15:02

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You are not supplying the definition of $L$, so here is one definition which works:

$$ L = \{ a b^n c^n : n \geq 0 \} \cup \{ a^k w : k \neq 1 \text{ and } w \in \Sigma^* \text{ doesn't start with $a$} \}. $$

Choose a pumping length of $3$. A word $ab^nc^n \in L$ can be pumped by pumping the $a$ part. A word $aabw$ or $aacw$ can be pumped by pumping the $aa$ part. A word $aaaw$ can be pumped by pumping the first $a$. Finally, a word $bw$ or $cw$ can be pumped by pumping the $b$ part or $c$ part.

Your definition seems to be

$$ L' = \{ a b^n c^n : n \geq 0 \} \cup \{ a^k w : k \neq 2 \text{ and } w \in \Sigma^* \}, $$

but for this language the pumping lemma does work. Indeed, apply it to $ab^nc^n \in L'$ for large enough $n$. Then $ab^nc^n = xyz$ so that $|y| \geq 1$ and $xy^iz \in L'$ for all $i \geq 0$. Considering the case $i = 2$, we see that $y = a$ necessarily. But then, taking $i = 0$ we get $xz = b^nc^n \notin L'$.

Perhaps the exercise meant you to use the version of the pumping lemma in which $i \geq 1$ instead of $i \geq 0$.

We can show that $L$ is not regular in many ways:

  1. Use one of the many general versions of the pumping lemma which can force the $b^nc^n$ to be pumped. For example, the general version on Wikipedia states that there exists $p$ such that any word $uwv \in L$ with $|w| \geq p$ can be partitioned as $w = xyz$ so that $|xy| \leq p$, $|y| \geq 1$ and $uxy^iz \in L$ for all $i \geq 0$. Choose $u = a$, $w = b^nc^n$ for $n \geq p$ and $v = \epsilon$, and follow the usual argument.

  2. If $L$ were regular then $L \cap ab\Sigma^* = \{ ab^nc^n : n \geq 1 \}$ would also be regular, and you can prove that it isn't using the usual pumping lemma.

  3. Use the Myhill–Nerode criterion. The words $ab^n$ are pairwise inequivalent, and so $L$ is not regular.

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  • $\begingroup$ Are you saying that given the word $aaab\in L$, which is of the form $aaw$, you would pump it by pumping the prefix $aa$? Then $(aa)^iab$ is $ab$ for $i=0$ and $ab\not\in L$. Is this a mistake in the answer or am I missing something? $\endgroup$
    – mimo31
    Commented Oct 30, 2022 at 17:45
  • $\begingroup$ You can pump $aaa$ instead. $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 30, 2022 at 21:34
  • $\begingroup$ If we pump $bw$ then for the $\alpha\gamma$ string we have just $w$, right? But that could start with a single $a$ and not have $b^nc^n$ after it. Perhaps better is if $w$ is an element of $\{b,c\}^*$. $\endgroup$ Commented Nov 17 at 22:00

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